Curse

Scary Raebbit · Jan 14, 2008, 03:29 AM // 03:29

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Originally Posted by Ekelon

[skill]Distracting Shot[/skill]

'nuff said.

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Originally Posted by Scary Raebbit

You have to wait till he has recycled all three of his stances before you can think of D-Shot (unless you're lucky), so might as well just Crip Shot and run away.

Unless you are running Guided Weapon/Ghostly Weapon/Seeking Arrows to get through LR, Whirling, or Dodge/Zojun's Haste.

Age · Jan 14, 2008, 10:58 PM // 22:58

Fight fire with fire I can't give you my FFF Hard Mode build as I am not at home atm.It is that or go cripshot/apply.

freaky naughty · Jan 18, 2008, 03:53 AM // 03:53

You could do all that cripshot bullcrap or you could be a toucher and touch each other to death.

iridescentfyre · Jan 18, 2008, 04:02 AM // 04:02

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Originally Posted by Scary Raebbit

Unless you are running Guided Weapon/Ghostly Weapon/Seeking Arrows to get through LR, Whirling, or Dodge/Zojun's Haste.

That's a good point in theory. In practice, they rarely have a stance up that frequently. Lets not forget; if these were good players they wouldn't be using a toucher in the first place. No need to waste skill slots on the off-chance you might need to "counter" a toucher.

Doesn't matter anyway, cripple them and move on. They're a waste of time and can be countered by simply staying away from them. The only thing that might make them remotely hard to kill is if the rest of your team is retarded and stands still for them.

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Originally Posted by freaky naughty

You could do all that cripshot bullcrap or you could be a toucher and touch each other to death.

Or you could run a good build and not be a prey item for any player who knows what they're doing.

NecroticChanter · Jan 18, 2008, 04:03 AM // 04:03

Apply poison--> Cripshot--> run away --> fire arrows back to degen it to death

You might wanna tell ur teammates to move out of the way tho so the toucher can't stop and gain health.

farkas · Jan 18, 2008, 05:39 AM // 05:39

With my noobness in PvP, in the few matches I played in AB distracting shot can screw up their momentum in self heal and such. With the other suggestions given by the others, R/N will definitely not be a problem unless you really want it to fail.

If you remove their stances and keep them crippled, you can even finish them of with "needling shot" which combines well with dazed casters below 50% or use it on high armor foes below 50% since it's armor ignoring damage.

MasterSasori · Jan 18, 2008, 05:44 PM // 17:44

Cripshot + Apply Poison/Poison Signet

You could just dshot one of the vampirics.

zling · Jan 19, 2008, 12:49 PM // 12:49

going against a team with 4 touchers in RA/TA can be scarry as you cant keep them all crippled and poisoned.
also if its in TA than they probably have some clue and will have Dodge+Zojun's+Whirlind
and if they're even smarter they'll bring dual reduce cripple 20%

but hey, all that is just hypothetical. most touchers go solo and are just N00Bs...

Proud Elitist · Jan 25, 2008, 11:58 AM // 11:58

How does a Ranger stop and kill a toucher?

Force the toucher to overextend into your backline. Then control his movement with Crippling Shot and Apply Poison. It helps, if the toucher is close, to weapon swap to your short bow then cripple him since it has a faster attack speed. Next tell your teammates to spike the toucher while you're crippling the enemy's monk. Finally, when your team reaches said toucher, interrupt him. Your monk should be keeping your teammates clean of blind while they are controlling him. You then have a dead toucher.

Aris the Accurate · Jan 25, 2008, 06:19 PM // 18:19

the above basicly has it right with a minor mistake.

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weapon swap to your short bow then cripple him since it has a faster attack speed.

yes it has a faster attack speed but it also has a longer flight time then a recurve. Lower flight time is what you want when delivering moves like crip shot.

Asrial · Jan 25, 2008, 07:00 PM // 19:00

What's that one skill that disables an entire line?

N1ghtstalker · Jan 25, 2008, 07:19 PM // 19:19

R/P can't touch this
=p

lennymon · Jan 25, 2008, 08:05 PM // 20:05

If I went AB and any Rangers on my side brought cant touch this, I'd rage quit. If anyone else wants some more bad ideas, try running Diversion on your R/mes just for touchers...Don't ever even use it on a monk.

Epinephrine · Jan 25, 2008, 08:18 PM // 20:18

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Originally Posted by lennymon

If I went AB and any Rangers on my side brought cant touch this, I'd rage quit.

Oh, I'm so doing this to you next time we AB

I'll put on my parachute pants and everything.

Proud Elitist · Jan 25, 2008, 08:45 PM // 20:45

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Originally Posted by Aris the Accurate

Yes it has a faster attack speed but it also has a longer flight time then a recurve. Lower flight time is what you want when delivering moves like crip shot.

Flight time is not as important as movement position when the Toucher is on top of you. The arrow will connect and you will be able to flee easier. Short Bows are best used against Melee ranged targets. If someone keeps missing with a Crippling shot at near melee range, they fail at the Ranger.

lennymon · Jan 25, 2008, 09:16 PM // 21:16

beautiful and informative flowchart there Epi

I was just being colorful though, I wouldn't ragequit anymore than Youd wear parachute pants, lol

Jetdoc · Jan 25, 2008, 09:26 PM // 21:26

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Originally Posted by Scary Raebbit

Unless you are running Guided Weapon/Ghostly Weapon/Seeking Arrows to get through LR, Whirling, or Dodge/Zojun's Haste.

[skill]Magebane Shot[/skill]

relt · Jan 28, 2008, 02:44 AM // 02:44

Do I get points for knowing the source of the "beautiful and informative flowchart"? Never thought I'd see an xkcd reference in a Ranger skills discussion forum

. And Jetdoc, how is Magebane going to do any better at getting through a stance?

horseradish · Jan 28, 2008, 02:58 AM // 02:58

it can't be blocked

relt · Jan 28, 2008, 04:04 AM // 04:04

My bad. I don't actually use it and I was going off of the description they have here, which is a bit outdated apparently.